@OrangeManIce I highly highly doubt NATO will fall apart anytime in the next 50 years or more. So we need not worry eh.

@JimmyG228 Nato end nato allience then we know who our real firends are

Snipers may wear diapers but thy get all the ladies! -Black Ops Zombies

Dr.William Atwater=Dr.Eggman?

@wcropp1 Being the US is part of NATO & thus required to fallow their standards, it makes not sense why the US continues to be different. I know the US military fallows & uses the NATO standards of meteric measuring in all forms & ways. Why can't the rest of the country end the confusion for people like me & start using NATO meteoric caliber charts? (rhetorical question)

@wcropp1 I'm sorry that can't be. .30 cal rounds can't be all based on the .308 because the British .303 is 7.7mm & the .308 is 7.62mm. How could a higher (larger size) number in imperial be smaller in caliber? See my confusion? I see your point about how different countries measure calibers in different ways, however in NATO it's all standardized. All calibers are determined by bullet diameter, not bore.

@wcropp1 I believe I got that backwards--many European countries measure from the *grooves* rather than the lands. Either way, their projectiles are slightly larger (if I remember correctly, they may be smaller) on paper because of the way they measure them. Regardless, there are inconsistencies between different countries depending upon how they measure bore diameter.

@wcropp1 As far as .303 British goes, I really have no idea. I do know that some European countries (Russia specifically) measure bore diameter from the lands, rather than the grooves, or a rifled barrel.

@JimmyG228 .30-06 is not a "modern" imperial measurement--it specifically means "30 caliber, adopted in 1906." There was also a .30-03, adopted in 1903. They are all technically .308 caliber bullets as far as I know, they were just named using a different naming convention, before there was a modern, standardized way to refer to ammunition.

M14 should be way higher than no10 I'm thinking no1

@KiresKnight .303 British (not black powder) rounds does refer to the caliber in relation to the diameter of the bullet from what I know. What about the 30-06 & .308 both being 7.62mm, makes no sense to me the numbers would be different for the same caliber. On NATO cartridge charts the 30-06 is 7.62x63mm & the .308 is 7.62x51mm. Thus infantry proofing the difference in cartridge.

@JimmyG228 The .303 is named from the distance between the bore and the lands, which is from the the black powder age. While the .308 refer to the initial bullet diameter prior to the bullet being fired from the chamber

I have a question for Americans and/or anyone who understands the imperial measurement system: NATO standard is to use meteoric, as a former NATO soldier I understand well meteoric calibers. However the equivalent imperial calibers make no sense to me. Case in point; 30-06 & .308 are both 7.62mm, why the different numbers if they are the same caliber? Then .303 to the logic of the number .308 implies the .303 is smaller then .308, however .303 is 7.7mm, which is bigger. How can this be?

@bigdalton123 Springfield sells CA legal versions, they have a different flash hider I believe as well as a bullet button.

@ben191209 I believe that is an early night vision scope.

ilove how it says its effective reanger is only 503 yards thats less than the m16

Eeghead at 1:35

@ben191209 miss with that thing and you are a super noob!

@imjaketete1 Don't, I paid 1300 for mine, that's about the limit for a good one. Polytemp makes one, It's chinese, I give dirty looks to anyone who owns one of them, it's not american and the receiver is very difficult to make, you pay for the lack of quality, save up the extra 3-400 and get yourself a good one!

@bigdalton123 Sadly no, at least that's what the tag said when I bought mine!

@99thJediWarrior I mean M1 Garand

@georgesouv Yup. The Son of the M14 rifle.

@ben191209 Straight outta team fortress 2

My weapon of choice in the future zombie apocalypse.....along with a Colt Python

@KingCommando32 i have legos xD